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Clan Review: Ventus Gaming South Africa

Clan Review: Ventus Gaming South Africa

Ventus Gaming. The newest and most successful Multi Gaming Organisation in South Africa. Yesterday we had the opportunity to catch up with Pieter ‘Cyrus’ Venter, the founder.

Ventus has a radical history, however as I told Pieter yesterday — we’re not going to dwell on the past. eGamer is all about the future — so this will be our focus. To be honest, we don’t feel that we need to talk about the history of Ventus Gaming. The future looks bright, and we want to know what they are up to. However, if you are interested in the history behind Ventus visit their Wikipedia page here.

The organisation sports 9 different divisions run by six different managers — or non-playing staff. Furthermore each division holds their own division manager which handles the team line-up. Pieter said that top-level management will only interfere with the teams if the division manager asks them to do so, or if the players complain about the division manager.

Ventus is the first ever legal entity for clan gaming. Their founders are bound by the Closed Corporations Act of 1984, and this essentially means that they have a duty to perform. Following their fiduciary duties as CC owners, Ventus will be able to enter into contracts on behalf of the team. This in turn limits their liability, but also shows potential sponsors that they are not only bound by the law, but that they have also invested time and effort into potential success.

Gaming organisations acting as a legal entity is something new in South Africa. Overseas teams have proven that you would need to create a legal body to succeed, and this seems to be the plan with Ventus.

We mentioned that Ventus holds nine different divisions. They include: Call of Duty 4, Counter Strike (both 1.6 and Source), DotA, Heroes of Newerth, Warcraft III, Quake Live, Fifa ’10 (PS3), Guitar Hero (Xbox 360) and an Overclocking team.

Past MGO’s in the country only ever held about three or four teams max. They never ever included console or hardware teams into their roster. Ventus seem to be trying something new, and we’re yet to see if it works to their advantage.

Staff members for Ventus include Pieter ‘Cyrus’ Venter (recruitment and sponsors), Jéan-Paul ‘Jeeva’ Avenant (Webmaster and competitions), Flipi ‘alcardu’ Portman (Editor), Husain ‘phANT1m’ Haffejee (journalist — you’ll notice he works with us too), Melanie ‘PiTi’ Bosman (marketing) and finally Goddy ‘Vivi’ Roodt (graphics).

We’ve quoted a large body of results from the divisions. We’d like to familiarize you with their success:

  • V|COD approached us soon after we launched. They were in the 3rd Division of Telkom DoGaming Online League at that point, but got promoted to Division 2 in leg 2. Leg 2 finished yesterday and they were undefeated which means they will be promoted to Division 1 for leg 3. We aim to get to Premier league for leg 4 and then to get a top3 placing at rAge.
  • V|CS joined us 1 week before we went live/public and have since then gone through a bit of a lineup change. The captain quit CS to focus on studies which got some players to lose motivation. We then reformed with a new lineup (only 2 of the original lineup still with us). The new lineup is currently underperforming but they are improving after each practice and they are planning on bootcamping in these upcoming holidays. They are currently in the DoGaming 1st Division and will most likely stay there for leg 3. They plan on getting to Premier League by leg 4 and to win rAge. There is a chance that CS 1.6 Dreamhack qualifiers will be held at rAge and in that case they will most likely rather enter that than the DoGaming CSS championships.
  • V|DOTA had a few internal spats, but all has been resolved. They have taken 1st place in Twilight League Season 1, SynCidy March and SynCidy April. They plan to enter Twilight Season 2 and any other local online comps that are coming up. Thanks to our sponsors they are able to compete on Garena against European teams to increase their skill level to international standards.
  • V|HON has yet to lose a match against a South African team. They won the DoGaming Leg 1 & Leg 2 as well as the S2 Games comp held at WITS University in March. They plan on continuing this streak. They have been competing internationally against various teams and will be entering the HoN World Cup in June. They are all based in Cape Town and will therefore be competing at OC on a monthly basis (when the lan version gets released). They will also be competing at rAge (if DoGaming hosts HoN there) and plan to win it.
  • V|WC3 consists of 3 players who have been competing for years. They play on EU servers as the local scene is rather dead. (once again thanks to Web Africa for the unshaped accounts). They are competing in the MSSA online League and have won all their matches so far convincingly. They will be invited to National Team Trials and hope to be chosen for the national team which will be flown to Korea to compete in the International eSports Federation (IeSF) Championships
  • V|QL consists for 3 players who have all competed in Quake 3 for years and now Quake Live. They recently won the 1st Ventus Quake Live Sprint Cup (16 May). more about that below. They also won the miNt Quake Live Cup in March as well as the MSSA Gauteng Provincial Championships.
  • V|FIFA has won the Telkom/EA FIFA09 Roadshow in December after winning the Johannesburg Regional Qualifiers in October at rAge and then the national finals in Pretoria. Unfortunately there has been a lack of competitions lately, but he plans on entering the MSSA National Championships and to be chosen for the IeSF Championships in Korea.
  • V|GH won everything held in 2009 from Provincials, to Nationals, to WCG Qualifiers (rAge). He got flown to China to represent SA but could unfortunately not exit the group stages (like many other SA teams). He plans on repeating 2009 by winning everything hosted locally and hopefully improve on his results at the WCG.
  • V|OC has been overclocking for 2 years now and has won the GOOC SA Qualifiers and will be flown to Indonesia for the Regional Qualifiers in June.

Other News: The DotA team will participate in the Razer Challenge (1024 teams participating), while Ventus HoN came third in an international event  (Gamereplays.org warm-up tourney) — they lost to Fnatic.

* Extract from Ventus Gaming itself.

Ventus Gaming are involved in almost every aspect of competitive play. They host tournaments and they attend LANs for recognition and prizes.

As previously stated, I was able to share a few kind words with Pieter yesterday afternoon.

For those unfamiliar with Pieter, he has a long history. He previously ran a Multi Gaming Organisation in 2007 where he later joined forces with the MSSA. The previous MGO known as XploIT was involved with the MSSA as well as with Vodacom. They would have been the first team to receive sponsorship by Vodacom, however internal relations at Vodacom halted their gaming endeavours.

There is a shocking history behind Pieter’s attempt at success, and it’s amazing how he never gave up. No matter what the community said or did, he carried on. Pieter now runs one of the top teams in the country.

Thanks to Pieter, Ventus Gaming holds three major sponsors – WebAfrica for ADSL accounts, Samsung for electronics and Cooler Master for gaming accessories and chassis.

During the chat with Pieter he was slightly hesitant to reveal all his plans, but we managed to find out why he started an MGO opposed to an organisation which runs tournaments and big events with sponsors. Pieter hinted that, while he’d love to do major tournaments and events, the MGO idea would be the best start. Gaming in the country lacks competition, sponsors and enthusiasm. He plans to bring all of this back with Ventus Gaming. In the near future don’t be surprised to see Ventus involved in various gaming aspects.

While Pieter feels competition in the country is important, he assures me that they would rather be friends with rival teams opposed to serious competitors.

“While rivalry is good, it should stay in-game. When it comes to the management of MGO’s they need to work together to grow eSports in SA and not against each other,” he said.

Their competition between Bravado Gaming was described — to me — as, friendly.

When I asked about the legal entity idea he said that it allows for proper structure and a sense of security. Teams will be able to exist longer as there is more structure and risk behind the idea of a company built around gaming.

Ventus Gaming currently holds three leading sponsors. I asked Pieter if they would help other teams obtain sponsors and he replied by saying that the near future definitely holds opportunity for this. At the moment their organisation needs slightly more stability and thereafter they will try to help the community.

I asked Pieter where he gained inspiration for the MGO and he said that teams such as SK and Fnatic were good inspiration. Moreover, the MYM path was not the one he’d like to follow. Ultimately, his lucrative gaming goal would be similar to Vitrolic Gaming — an older international organisation.

With help from various international organisations, Pieter is looking at a bright gaming future. While I did comment on helping the community, it’s understandable that their first goal would be to better themselves.

Sponsorship Sponsorship!

I asked Pieter to describe what he would want Ventus to have by 1 January 2011, 1 January 2012 and 1 January 2015:

1 Jan 2011: Ventus has secured enough sponsors to send their teams to various events around the country with all expenses paid
1 Jan 2012: We start going international by sending teams over to international events
1 Jan 2015: We own a office similar to that of SK where our players can regularly bootcamp.

Ventus Gaming would like to hold divisions in most competitive games. Following this they would like their trophy cabinet to be used more than Manchester United, which isn’t far off as they have already trumped Arsenal FC.

But enough about cricket.

Girl teams? “A possibility”, he said. If things change with female competition Ventus would look into adding girls to the entity. That’s all Pieter could comment about girl-gamers. He said that not much thought has gone into this.

Finally – I had to ask. The name. Ventus Gaming being related to Venter. Pieter said, “well I just looked for a latin name that sounds good and has a meaning we can use in gaming,”

“It just happens to turnout to sound similar to my surname,” he added.

Ventus is latin for Wind – Their slogan is: The Invisible Force

eGamer’s Overview:

While gaming is changing, we definitely feel that Ventus are doing something right. Despite our slightly-negative attitude to gaming organisations in the country, something just feels right about this.

We preferred to look into the future of Ventus and not really the past. Their history is open to everyone on their Wiki page.

Sponsors, watch out. This team means business.

After being around the local gaming community for about 10 years, gaming feels fresh again. And while they might share ideas with other organisations, they are the only ones risking everything they have to make this work.

Of course, they cannot build the community alone — so why don’t we all try and help out?

To contact Ventus Gaming you can click here.

We’d like to open the comment section for questions. We’ve asked Ventus staff to, uh – troll – the comments with replies to any questions or suggestions you might have.

Unfortunately there are no team pictures of Ventus just yet as they are yet to play locally as a team.

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Name: Dean Oberholzer
Location: Cape Town
Position: Editor

  • http://www.clan-sn.co.za Geno

    Great write up well done to ventus for averything they have achieved so far.

    But your CSS team as it is now, Will never win rage. Or even place remotely close to the top 3

  • http://www.ventusgaming.co.za Cyrus

    Hi Geno. I get where you are coming from, but all teams have to start somewhere. I have faith in Stripflow to grow the team as he did with so many other teams in the past.

  • flipi

    hehe ^^ pieter “Venter Management” Get it now? :D

    ah ekt so gelag. Nice write Dean. Ppl speculating you still love me ;)

  • TheMan

    You cannot possibly keep HAMMERING on this idea that you get sponsorships just because you fucking can. You get sponsorships because your team wins the league or the tournament. This is getting RIDICULOUS.

    • dean0

      Unfortunately – you’re wrong.

      Obviously if you win tournaments all the time you /should/ get the best sponsors. Winning doesn’t require sponsorship.

      Think of it as business. For an online start-up – if you talk the walk and walk the walk – you can receive millions *dollars* in VC funding. You don’t even need a working product. This money will help you grow your product. Without it there won’t be growth as fast, or as reliable and smooth.

      Same a clan really. Sponsors are generally new to the internet. A lot of people only have websites for the sake of having websites. They have no idea how to use it properly.

      Therefore, sponsors now see an emerging market for advertising and support. Ventus happen to have that game plan. They are the ones that currently walk the walk and talk the talk. They are the ones getting attention – both positive and negative. They are the ones with the most teams and most of those teams boast top players.

      Yeah, some are foul. But they will learn.

      Now, seeing as they have all the above and they have a good game plan they have pulled off sponsorship. They kind of proved that you don’t need to win for sponsors, because as you said – what have they really won together as a team? Not much – but they have sponsors, don’t they?

      Now competition. Competition in this country is stagnant. The only real competition comes from DoGaming. That’s about it.

      So now ask yourself. If you know you’re not the best, and you know you don’t have sponsors or anything to really play for – why should you play your best? Gaming is a friend circle anyway – everyone seems to stick together therefore whats the point of trying to prove yourself? Why would you try to get into the best team if you’ll need to suck dick before you are even recognized?

      Not to mention ego’s. You’ll need to suck well. Very well. Then you’d be past the ego.

      So – if there no competitions, and no sponsors. What does winning really mean?

      To fix this problem a simple solution would be – more sponsors. Sponsor teams something that will help them. Give them the will to play. Make them play because they feel they have to play. Thereafter competition will increase. And when competition increases you’ll notice the best teams will get the best sponsors wanting to jump the situation.

      I’m sorry but similar to business – yes clans seem to be serious business – if you don’t market your product you’re going to get no where. Sponsors won’t approach you, because – they barely know about the market.

      How many of them really know about gaming? The ones that know about gaming were either involved from an early stage and are put off or they don’t want to invest in teams but rather competitions.

      Luckily for you, there are people that will invest in teams. But your attitude is the problem. Instead of supporting the teams doing the right thing you’re moaning about it.

      Your blog post didn’t prove much either. It just showed that if you win you get the best sponsors. But you don’t need to win to get sponsors. I mean, Bulls were sponsored back in the early 2000′s when they lost. Exposure is exposure.

      Formula One is a great example. The back runners NEVER win but they are sponsored? Why – because it’s exposure. Obviously they won’t get as much as the top teams but they have sponsors. So I fail to see your point with winning + sponsorship.

      I can see how you judge success on winning too. But you should realise – there’s nothing to win in this country. There are barely any tournaments. Barely enough competitions on LAN and our most talked about event was last years rAge. Every year its the same story.

      So Ventus – most successful yes. For what they have done for themselves and what they can potential do for the community. They’ve pulled sponsors from nothing, they have enough teams to play almost anything. They have the ability to rival anyone and that makes something to watch out for.

      Following this, judging by everyone’s attitude towards the ‘most successful’ it kind of proves that they are something to watch out for.. else you wouldn’t care. If I called some stupid team ‘most successful’ you’d all just laugh it off – but no. Not with Ventus.

      So when you look at the overall picture with gaining sponsors, creating gaming exposure and actually helping everyone out in the long run, they are doing well. Better than you really. A question would be, what have you done to support the industry? And I mean, what have you done successfully – cause every time you say you tried this and that you failed. Therefore sir, you are unsuccessful.

      Ventus are succeeding and moving forward: .’. successful.

      Hope you understand now how this actually works, and try understand that we are at the point where we need sponsors to be competitive and we need sponsors for growth. 7 years ago sponsors weren’t needed for growth but sadly that would have been the perfect time for it. Unfortunately they did not come through and now we’re stuck in a big hole.

    • aluls

      I stopped reading your “sponsorship” story after you got “talk the talk and walk the walk” wrong.

  • http://www.ventusgaming.co.za Cyrus

    @ TheMan aka bvd`SilencE I agree, but we never said that…

  • http://egamer.co.za/ Tody

    Yeah, TheMan, I’m with Cyrus. I agree with what you’re saying, but nothing of the sort was mentioned in the article…so why the rage? :razz:

  • http://www.egamer.co.za M0fla

    Lol during my N00B days my nick was TheMan for all the NFSs and other games lol

  • TheMan

    Cyrus aka Obvious : I was referring to “Sponsors, watch out. This team means business.” When they have a good HoN team and mediocre everything else.

  • Tom

    How can you claim results from 2009 and earlier if Ventus didn’t even exist back then?

    Also, if Ventus is the newest MGO in SA, how can you call them the most successful? How do you measure success? By the amount of EoS teams in the org? I guess that’s fine then.

  • radox

    ventus.dota hasnt placed anything but first in all the leagues and cups its played in (even recently when we were known as tankh). Like we said we have had internal strife but its all resolved now, so you will be seeing alot more of us starting with twilight league on the 31st of this month, followed by twilight cup and the Global razer challenge.

  • http://www.ventusgaming.co.za Cyrus

    lol Silence. You saying Ventus DotA is mediocore? How about Guitar Hero, Overclocking, Quake Live? They all went overseas and placed first in the last 3 comps of their respective games in SA. Who in bravado went overseas?

    I don’t want to argue about who’s dick is better than who’s but if you keep bashing us we will have to correct you.

  • daekinHO

    I don’t understand why there is so much head-butting about and with Ventus-gaming :(
    Maybe a personal dispute, but nevertheless its great to see an MGO starting out and recognizing the necessary steps to make a difference with regards to gaming in SA. If you want gaming to be taken to higher levels, Ventus is definitely leading the way.

  • daekinHO

    OT: great article thank you

  • http://www.ventusgaming.co.za Cyrus

    Hi daekinHO thanks so much for your positive comment. Wish every1 could be like you.

    But I guess silence is gona make a article about Ventus self-proclaiming to be “leading the way” just because someone outside said so.

  • dean0

    Who cares what he makes an article about. They cannot answer any of the questions we give them.

    I commented here about his sponsorship thing. It’s quite lengthy – but worth it.

  • Lag Beast

    Crap journalism. K tx

  • http://www.ventusgaming.co.za GoDfAtheR

    hehehe :)

  • Jan Erasmus

    Cs and cod4 are probably the most competitive communities atm apart from bfbc2…
    Yet ventus has a poor cs team and an over rated cod team.
    Yes they have the best HoN team in SA atm, no doubt about it.

    Also presenting player and team placings and achievements that occured before they were even affiliated with ventus is quite misleading….

    Either way i dont know how the MGO can be described as the most succesful in SA, when they quite clearly are poor.

    FIFA, Guitar Hero, etc arent competetive among most SA gamers… I wont even mention overclocking…

    While ventus has done alot better than most ppl would of expected, i dont know where you find any facts to base your opinions.

  • http://www.ventusgaming.co.za Cyrus

    so funny that all these people with negative comments have to smurf when they comment, but all the positive comments are under their real nickname. Wasnt it Silence who said on one of his blogs that it is irrelevant if you can’t say who you are?

    Oh and Jan based on what facts do you say Guitar Hero and FIFA are not competitive? Maybe in the PC Gaming community that you live in, that I will agree with, but that kinda makes sense seeing as it isn’t played on a PC…

    FIWC had 512 players competing this year. How many css players were there in our biggest event this last year? Lets see…online we had 17 teams. Even if u multiply it by 5 (players per team) you still dont get near 512. Or how about rAge last year? 16 teams where 2 of them didnt show up. Hmmm….keep on living in your own bubble. FIFA will be the first game that gets broadcasted on Supersport.

    Now you might say the amount of people playing dont make it competitive. So what does make it competitive? The prizes? The amount of hours spent? What else?

    Did CSS or CoD4 go overseas in the last 2 years? No, but FIFA and Guitar Hero did. If you don’t have facts to back up your statements, rather don’t post at all.

  • http://www.mintgaming.co.za Merc

    I think what Jan is trying to say that, in OUR gaming community they aren’t competitive?

    And there are only PS3 players registered for the PS3 Do Gaming league, and 29 for XBox360. Also OverClocking is hardly related to gaming at all.

    Just an observation: You have chosen games that compete in MSSA events. I mean we dont have a guitar hero do gaming event, or 1.6 league. Maybe this was MSSA influenced – Im probably wrong BUT like I said it was just an observation.

    Before any thinks this is a Ventus bashing, its not. I actually applaud them for what they have achieved in such a small space of time, but as an owner of an MGO I do understand that what most companies do want to see is results – its not as easy as its been portrayed to be.

  • Russ

    TBH there is too much hate. What did Ventus do to everyone? I enjoy the overclocking jokes and i like to poke fun at Ventus but in reality they’re not doing so bad. Ventus might seem silly to many MANY people because of their weird divisions and how they list their achievements pre-Ventus, but they are doing something right and people are just emo about it. Go on and rip me to pieces for my post.

  • http://egamer.co.za/ Tody

    I’m actually with Russ on this one. In a short space of time, they’ve done well. I’ve made my fair share of jokes too, but I don’t think they’ve done anything to deserve such ire from you guys. :razz:

    Fundamentally, they have potential and are doing something right, that’s for sure. And really, time and energy can be better spent helping each other and the SA gaming community instead of raging. Just my opinion though. It’s not my fight, but as I said, I’m just giving my opinion. Come on guys, let’s drop the hate.

  • http://www.ventusgaming.co.za Cyrus

    @ Tody & Russ: Thanks for the +

    @ Merc: I get where you are coming from, but Guitar Hero is in fact a DoGaming league. It was in previous years and it is again this year:
    http://gaming.do.co.za/xbox360/guitar_hero_5/articles/localnews/telkom_do_gaming_console_leagues_open.htm

    And if you saying RiseUp and FRAG are not part of the community with your own team playing 1.6 in those events then I don’t know who you are trying to fool.

    It has also been made clear that Ventus has no affiliation to MSSA whatsoever. So you are right when you say “Im probably wrong”

    And just because Console players rather play at offline events than online does not make it less competitive. DoGaming themselves hosted the FIWC along with EA and it was a great success.

    Surely they are not part of “our community” but thats what Ventus is trying to change. We want eSports to grow as a whole, not the few games that the regular IRC people play or the SGS servers host. We want all competitive eSports that have a potential and a market to be nurtured. If organisations like SK can have console players, why can’t we?

    The problem with most people, and this goes outside of gaming, is that they too narrowminded. They don’t want to think outside of the box to grow something. They rather want to just stick with what they have and that is exactly why SA gaming has gone nowhere in the last 20 years. 2002-2006 saw regular international events for CS and it had big prizes such as those on bvd`cent’s blog bout rAge 2005. Then gaming dropped cause people are thinking in the short-run rather than the long-run. People just try and take as much out of the current market as possible rather than to grow the market into something that everyone can benefit from.

  • http://www.mintgaming.co.za Merc

    :) thanks for the reply and the clarification.

  • jeeva

    oh noes,
    cyruses pro-MSSA days is coming back to haunt him.

    Luckily I converted him to the DARK SIDE! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

  • http://www.ventusgaming.co.za Cyrus

    Lol Jeeva, it wasnt you. Colin did it all by himself…