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Musing Of A Mad Hatter: Passionate Hatred

Musing Of A Mad Hatter: Passionate Hatred

I’m what you would call a modern gamer. I did, in fact, grow up playing NES games on one of those old shameless rip-off Golden China consoles and I somehow had a Sega Megadrive. I was playing Sonic the Hedgehog for months at a time (Hey, you probably sucked too when you were 6 years old) and the ridiculously difficult Comix Zone that I thought was impossible to beat. But I did. And man did it feel good. Since early on in my life I was hooked on gaming, from the moment I was introduced to it. I would never have imagined it would grow as vastly as it did.

We, as gamers, all have our own forms of gaming passion. Be it playing a single game’s multiplayer for months on end and taking part in tournaments to see who is the best or the RPG player who plays a game for hundreds of hours just to unlock all the secrets or explore everything. I’m one of the latter. If a single-player game has me engrossed then I stay that way until I fully complete it. I get copious amounts of satisfaction if I complete a game on its hardest difficulty or doing things many people would never imagine doing in their lives.

I feel now that I have to discuss something that has been eating at me for weeks. Haters. As we all know they are everywhere. Mention a single thing good about a game and they would come at you like the fucking plague and not stop until you have submitted to their will. What happened to their passion of games that they feel the need to blatantly express how they dislike the game and damn you if you think otherwise. Sometimes everything backfires and they get called out for being nit-picky or don’t really have that much knowledge about the game in the first place. Their reply would always be: “I was just expressing my opinion.” Which brings me to my next point.

Having an opinion about a game is all well and good, but sometimes you just have to question the validity of that opinion. Let’s look at an example. If you say: “Kingdoms of Amalur was a great game, but I think the story was a bit bland for my tastes,” then that’s a perfectly valid opinion, but if you say: “The Witcher 2 is too difficult for me even on Easy difficulty, I’m going to trade it in first thing in the morning. My (iron) sword doesn’t do anything against the monsters and I’m pissed off. This game sucks!”, then you seriously need to question yourself.

They will still say: “Well everyone has an opinion why can’t I?”, but if I say: “Oh, in my opinion I think that Hitler was right and we should kill all the Jews,” wouldn’t I be lynched for that? These haters become so engaged into looking for every single minute fault in a game that I think that they have missed the whole point of it. To have fun. What would happen to me if I logged on every morning to various forums and my only objective for the day would be to spread my discord for a game? I would start to lose touch with the things that make gaming great.

These people need to wake up and smell the daisies. Just play a game and at least try and enjoy it. That quote I gave about The Witcher 2 is an actual quote I saw on a forum. Now that person is missing out on one massive experience filled with adventure just because they were too stupid or impatient to craft a silver sword. It’s sad and pitiful.

These haters are the cancer of the gaming industry. A multitude of gamers would read something, agree with what was said and leave. Haters would keep coming back to voice their opinion and try their damn hardest to change someone’s mind about it. If someone enjoyed the game then they enjoyed it. End of story. No multitude of 1,000-word comments and “expertly crafted” renditions about story points would change a person’s mind, but why do they insist on going on and on for hours? I seriously don’t know.

Recently it was made abundantly clear to me that sometimes you have to be upset with something in order to change it. That’s true, but you shouldn’t let it spoil everything for you. If you allow a 5 minute scene to spoil your 40 hour experience where you specifically said you like it, then you’re only hurting yourself. Voice your opinion, sure, but don’t say a game is suddenly complete shit because you’re so focused on being unhappy about something.

Haters need to come back to the world of gaming where we actually want to have fun. Not meaninglessly rant on for hours about a gun that wasn’t invented in a game’s timeline or a trailer where a white dude was killing black zombies and call it racist for DAYS. I make it abundantly clear that I am passionate about gaming and I would love that these sour apples be picked off from this ever expanding tree.

To the lovers of gaming, keep on keeping on. Don’t let anyone spoil your fun.

To the haters. Stop for a few seconds and look at what you’re doing. You’re essentially killing gaming yourself. Help us all out and just stop. Go play one of the 3 games you actually like and just get in touch with your inner gamer. It would only benefit everyone.

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Name: Marko Swanepoel
Location: Vereeniging
Position: Author, Features & Columns

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  • http://egamer.co.za/author/africanwoolf/ Jake

    Damn, that was one fine read.

    I mean… that sucked, everything sucks. I’m right, everyone else is a super gay fagmosexual whose mothers I have fornicated with.

    • Treble

      Jake where are your articles dude? This guy is stealing your limelight lol but seriously really great article Marko

    • http://egamer.co.za/author/africanwoolf/ Jake

       http://egamer.co.za/author/africanwoolf/

      Everything I’ve ever done :D

      I’m writing a column every second week for now – once its holidays I will be a whirlwind of listy goodness ^^

  • http://www.twitter.com/domzor Dom van Blerk

    Fucking good article, Thabo. I love how you mention Mass Effect 3 without actually saying it. ;)

    • http://twitter.com/MGTHABO Marko Swanepoel

      Fit of absolute bloody genius huh? :D

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Aaron-James/1613336481 Aaron James

    Well said sir, although the ME3 ending was crap ;p

    • http://twitter.com/MGTHABO Marko Swanepoel

      Wait I don’t see no mention of Mass Effect 3? I was talking about Pimp My Ride! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/nanonyous Theo Lubbe

    It is kind of important to bitch and moan about games you feel could have been better if not for their publishers and/or developers doing idiotic things. You stated you’d had it made ‘abundantly clear to you that sometimes you have to be upset with something in order to change it’, but what happens when a particular publisher consistently has people getting upset with them yet they do nothing to rectify their faults?

    For a specific example I’d point the finger at Electronic Arts and the Need for Speed series. Back in the day, when they gave one of these games a particular title sequence, it implied that game would have x gameplay ‘style’.

    If it was just ‘Need for Speed’ it was about racing with luxury cars and maybe having some modification headroom.

    If it was one of the Porsche with two syllables games, it was about the Porsches.

    If it was ‘Hot Pursuit’, it was about cops chasing players strapped on like some kinky device to the normal NFS people knew.

    Underground had its gameplay style.

    Then there were the bad eggs in the basket – Carbon and the latest Hot Pursuit. Carbon was, from what I recall, the successor to Most Wanted,, but introduced the godawful automated drift mechanic. From what I recall, ProStreet adopted this same mechanic somewhere, despite a very large portion of the playerbase indcating they hated it – fair enough, ProStreet was doing its own thing and wasn’t even hinted at having anything to do with the other games. People bitched with good reason about all the other crap they’d done in the game that just made it a downright ‘stupid’ game, neither fitting here nor there as far as genre or even the NFS series as a whole was concerned.

    By this point I gave up on the series. I never played Undercover and I only briefly played Shift, which seemed okay. Need for Speed World was pretty failtastic for the fact that it didn’t natively allow gamepads, yet if you used a joystick to keyboard emulation application you could still have analogue controls – no option for gear shifting, which pissed people off bigtime.

    Then the latest Hot Pursuit came out. A lot of people, me included, were downright pissed off that this game saw the return of the automated drift mechanic with zero option to disable it, but worse, had no manual gear shifting – not even an option to turn either of these things off. Why?

    Why did they give it the Hot Pursuit title if this was closer to Burnout (a game which EA also publishes, no less) than anything else? Why did they limit their players so much? Why did they force people to use mechanics that should have come with options to disable their use?

    Yes, people will find these games fun. They will find things to like about them and reasons why they would want to buy them. There will obviously always be people that will dislike any given game, but when one is looking at a lineage that games are coming from, you don’t fuck with the roots, and you listen to your customers.

    Carbon should never have existed in the form it did. ProStreet, for all its hype, should never have been as crap as it was in terms of its gameplay mechanics (here’s looking at you, practically invincible wingmen).

    Hot Pursuit (2010) should never have been given a Need for Speed title, let alone the Hot Pursuit subtitle.

    This is why people get upset about some games – because they come to expect something from a lineage which publishers persistently, needlessly mess with. They get upset because they ‘care’. They care about being able to pick up the next Megaman game and knowing that it’s going to be the Megaman that they grew up with and love, not Megacarbon Undercover Unleashed PursuitStreet 3.5 with invincible wingmen and an autopilot that plays half the game for you because you’re obviously too fucking stupid to do it yourself.

    In other words, those same ‘haters’ are getting pissed off because they no longer know before buying a game, regardless of whether they played its demo in some cases, if it’s going to be the game they expected it to be. Oblivious, ‘new’ gamers that know or care little about the publisher behind a game from some series they’re picking up for the first time won’t know and won’t care about the game’s predecessors. They’re going to have fun, unless there’s some aspect of the game that simply doesn’t appeal to them. They’re the kinds of people that aren’t going to really get vocal about their dislike for the game, because, egh, it’s just ‘that game’. Who cares, right?

    On the other hand, I’m in the process of learning how to make bombs (not really) so that if Eidos / Square Enix fucks up Thief 4, the way they fucked up Dungeon Siege 3, I can go blow up the offices of whoever’s responsible (no, really, I’m not being serious. I will be pretty upset, though. Rustled jimmies et al)

    tl;dr buttmaddness comes from expecting apples and getting sour grapes, unless you didn’t know what you were going to get anyway

    • http://www.twitter.com/domzor Dom van Blerk

      Cool story bro.

    • http://www.facebook.com/nanonyous Theo Lubbe

      How very adult

    • http://egamer.co.za/ Azhar Amien

      I find this sad to be honest. Marko writes up a good 1000 word article that is highly opinionated, and Theo writes up a nice 1000 comment in response after taking the time to read Marko’s article. And all he gets is stick for it. You don’t have to like the guy or agree with his comment, but he’s not just talking shit without even reading the article. He actually has some valid points. Yes he went on about Need for Speed for quite a while, but it was for a point.

      My point is he had something to say that is more valuable than “Cool story bro”, Dom :P <3

      Lesson: Don't write up really strong opinions if you can't, or don't want to, take counter opinions. You're not writing to a flock of sheep who will agree with everything you say.

    • http://www.twitter.com/domzor Dom van Blerk

      I’ll admit I didn’t read his comment until now, since I haven’t agreed with any of his opinions in the past. Now that I have read it, I think I’ve wasted my time.

      LOLJK, not really. But that definitely could’ve been condensed into a much, much shorter comment than it was. Anyway, sorry, Theo. You actually had a good point, even if it was as convoluted as Heroes’ plotline.

    • http://www.twitter.com/domzor Dom van Blerk

       So you agree with me? :)

    • http://www.facebook.com/nanonyous Theo Lubbe

       That makes no sense.

    • http://www.facebook.com/nanonyous Theo Lubbe

       Yay for Disqus’ horrific threading system once again~

      Apology accepted. I obviously don’t expect people to agree with me, let alone like me, anyway.

      I’m not going to lecture you on life (well, I’ll try not to), but it’s generally a good idea to only be vocally dismissive of people who’s opinions you hear in full – every time. Calling someone a ‘retard’ online because you don’t agree with their opinion that you didn’t even read isn’t exactly good form… it’s usually a pretty bad idea.

      Just a thought.

    • http://twitter.com/MGTHABO Marko Swanepoel

      It’s Twitter. I also say that I always dreamed of exploring Dom’s anal passage, but that’s rarely the case in real life. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/nanonyous Theo Lubbe

      Actually, that comment was directed at Dom. What you said wasn’t, on its own, particularly inflammatory. I mean, unless you’ve been stalking my comments here and simply weren’t naming names and stuff.

      (to Marko – Disqus threading at work, yay!)

    • http://egamer.co.za/author/cavie Caveshen “CaViE” Rajman

       But Theo we’re not really talking about the NFS series here. I mean, nobody really goes on many years ranting about the Need For Speed series except in extended examples, but take a look at certain other series. Has the hatred for Modern Warfare 2 ceased yet? What of Dragon Age 2, a full year and a bit later?

      I’m all for criticising a game, heaven knows I have my reasons for hating all things Halo and Counter-Strike but there are two important factors in play here: 1. I’ve actually played the games I criticise. 2. I dislike them but don’t force my dislike onto others.

      I think that’s the point Marko was going for in this column, or at least that’s how I read it when I edited it.

      It’s not about finding and pointing out criticisms, that should happen without doubt, it’s about finding and pointing out criticisms that are either circumstantial, subjective or already been mentioned, and then continuing to do so for months on end until everyone else is well over it, but continuing anyway because “FUCK GAME X” or something to that effect.

      And it needn’t always be about a game not meeting expectations. Yes, Mass Effect 3 apparently did meet some users’ somewhat unreal expectations so it got criticised, yes your Need For Speed examples worked well to convey the point of expectations not met (although remember that Hot Pursuit (2010) was developed by Criterion, the Burnout developers, so it was always going to be an arcade-centric title, as Shift was the simulation equivalent) but what of certain other games? Case in point, Modern Warfare 3. Dare try telling me that expectations weren’t rock-bottom for the game. Nobody expected anything other than a copy-paste of Modern Warfare 2 and what we got, in my opinion, was actually a pretty decent offering with some memorable set-pieces and a decent multiplayer that finally eliminated camping, unfortunately marred by all the criticism and pure hatred for the series. Another game could perhaps be Dragon Age 2 where gameplay was shown long before the game released, so we know the combat style to expect. We were also told of the intended changes with regards to dialogue and storytelling, so we should have expected what we got, yet so many who played the game carried on as if BioWare had done some evil thing by keeping the details of this game secret to goad them into buying the game. And the hatred for that game continues, still…

      Again, it’s not about pointing out criticisms. Modern Warfare 3 ran on out-dated graphics and attempted to re-work the same mechanics over and over, but it was still a good game and though perhaps not worth the asking price, still above being abused. Dragon Age 2 suffered dungeon template re-use and had bizarre story progression, but it was still a good game AND worth the asking price (I mean really, that game was a steal even on release date), and it is above the abuse considering it released in a time when really great RPGs weren’t around for your comparison, unlike now.

      Fuck it, I still rate the Rocksteady series of Batman games as over-rated and I’ve played both of them. That’s not some admission of hypocrisy, but an admission of actually knowing what I’m talking about. It’s not as if we can’t play games we don’t enjoy. That’s silly. Yet haters WILL come at you for that. “Oh, you hate the Halo series? Please, tell me how many hours of Reach you played?”

      By all means bag on the person who’s only played a game for five minutes and condemned it. Although I will excuse anyone who does this for Dungeon Siege III. That game broke my heart in ten minutes.

    • http://www.facebook.com/nanonyous Theo Lubbe

       Ten minutes? I gave the game a good few hours, only because I wanted to see the female villain person you eventually fight <.<

      But seriously, I don't know what part of that game they considered even remotely like Dungeon Siege 1 and 2…

      Was gonna write another long-winded thing here, getting too tired to not sound deranged though. Can agree that people shouldn't rag on games for months/years on end just because, but I will say that there are some games that, if someone's going to be buying them (the genuinely crap ones) for more than x price, I'll be one of the first to launch myself at them in slow motion screaming 'noooooooo!' like something out of a shitty comedy for tweens.

      Sure, if they want to play them, let them, but at least don't let them waste what could be a lot of (or a lot more than is necessary) money on a sub-standard product. That's like letting someone buy a VW Beetle for the price of a Lamborgini – it's irresponsible and reinforces the idea that VW Beetles are worth as much as Lambos with VW and other car manufacturers.

    • http://egamer.co.za/ Azhar Amien

      The difference is, Cavie, there’s nothing wrong with you loving Dragon Age 2, but many of the criticisms directed at the game are completely true, and can be factually proven as such. I’ve played the game 40 hours and finished it, I’m perfectly qualified to critically say it’s a pathetic effort, and no where near the worth the money you can spend on much, much better products. That’s a matter of quality. It’s okay not to like the Batman games or think they’re overrated, but as far as effort and quality goes (not to mention the extreme difficulty of working with a licensed product), they make both Modern Warfare 3 and Dragon Age 2 look like lowly pieces of bargain bit shit.

      I just wanted to question your thing about Dragon Age 2. Yes it released at a rather dry time for RPGs, but that same year there was Skyrim, the Witcher 2, Dark Souls, Bastion. I think even beginning to hold Dragon Age 2 up to any of those is crazy. It’s laughable how unfitting it is for a game of 2011.

      But rants/hate aside (it had to be about Dragon Age 2 didn’t it?), I think you guys need to question what point you’re trying to make. People enjoy games in different ways, and express their distaste in different ways. I really think if we just accepted everything and threw our money at every game with zero complaints, then our industry wouldn’t be compelled to advance and do something different in the market. Whether you like haters or not, the only reason to ever condemn them is if they’re outright wrong about their hate. If they’re hating for bad reasons, or reasons that aren’t true. Or I guess if they’re forcing their hate rather than stating it or debating.

      For example, I think people have legitimate reasons to complain about Call of Duty. The easiest one is that it’s one of the most expensive games on the market with the least work put in. Finally, Black Ops 2 looks like it may go an extra mile and actually do something unique, but only time will tell. The fact that it’s the best selling game in my opinion is a bad thing for the industry. The most sold doesn’t mean the best, as is clearly demonstrated by the Harry Potter and Twilight movies, and most definitely Avatar, which was incredible to watch as a visual experience but not much more than that.

      On the contrary, calling Mass Effect shit just because of the ending would be a legitimate reason to say haters are wrong. With me, I no longer am a fan of the series, and I pretty much don’t want to think about or play it again, but if there comes a time to discuss it I will talk it up and say it’s a game of high quality, but in a matter of complete subjectivity I am over it. I won’t say that the entirety of “Mass Effect” is crap because of that ending.

      **TLDR VERSION**: I agree with Theo, you’re free to enjoy what you please but spending money on a sub-standard product is a sore point that shouldn’t be encouraged. As an industry I don’t want to be encouraging Assassin’s Creed 27, I want to be encouraging the work of Naughty Dog, Epic Games or, for a movie analogy, Nolan. Give your heart and sole to a trilogy or series, and don’t run it into the ground. Stop when it’s time to stop.

    • AG_Sonday

      I don’t much like you Theo, especially after this uber long comment. Kidding but seriously, I don’t like you :P.

      In all honesty, I couldn’t agree more and you’re even talking about the decline of NFS which is one of my pet rants because anyone who ahs played Most wanted and loved it will have spent the years sicne waiting for EA to reproduce that magic.

      The problem is that people seem to continually associate a series with the last good addition to it that they played. I’ll always think of CoD 4 and maaaaaybe Black Ops when you mention Call of Duty but I realised soon after MW2 that they were not going to recapture the magic and brilliance of CoD 4 and so I stopped expecting as much from Activision.

      I believe nostalgia has a role in this because we may like a series/franchsie for some of its earleir titles and continue to purchase current titles to get even a fraction of the experience. Deep down I knew Revelations wasn’t going to be amazing but I went out and bought it on release anyway just to get that AC experience again and part of the reason for wanting to do that was that it would conjure up memories of playing AC II and the first game.

      With the scale and scope of gaming marketing today with trailers and trailers for trailers, there’s no excuse for not knowing what you’re getting but nostalgia and the love for a particular gaming experience can often be overpowering.

  • http://egamer.co.za/ Azhar Amien

    I always find it funny when someone writes an article complaining about people who complain about things? :D Complainception?

    Nah but really, good write-up.

    I don’t fully agree though because people have different ways of going about things. I agree that I don’t like people who don’t give credit where it’s due or complain about unimportant things, but for me there are a few things that need to be said:

    - You can enjoy an average game. I enjoyed Star Wars: The Force Unleashed but it was nowhere near great. I loved Far Cry 2 despite all its issues, but I wouldn’t critically rate it that amazing. Basically, difference between critical viewing and personal opinion.

    - I used to simply try to enjoy and like every game, but that’s because I was young and didn’t care about anything other than fun. Now that I’m completely passionate about gaming, have been gaming for a damn long time, and free time is less despite me playing almost every release in a year, I just can’t enjoy mediocrity as much. When I dislike something I am passionate about that dislike, and on the reverse when I love something I am very passionate about it, and that doesn’t make me any less a passionate gamer than you are. I could go on for hours about my love for something like Metal Gear Solid or Batman, just as I could go on for hours about my hatred for something like Dragon Age 2 or Crysis 2. It boils down to the same thing: passion.

    - Instead of being content or enjoying average or crappy games, I’d much rather wait for those gems in the year that I can fall in love with and pick out as my highlights and praise to no end. I’d much rather have fantastic games deserving of the credit than mediocre or rubbish titles that don’t deserve it.

    Also, agreed with Aaron James up top, Mass Effect 3′s ending was rubbish :D

    • http://twitter.com/MGTHABO Marko Swanepoel

      But what if those “mediocre games” you’ve mentioned are the same to some people as the “games I play that deserves appreciation”. Don’t those people have the right to be upset if you attack them? 
      What if I said Batman was a load of shit filled to the brim with rancid piss? Won’t you come at me as well? 

    • http://www.facebook.com/nanonyous Theo Lubbe

       They have every right to be upset if you’re attacking them, but the debate surrounding the various merits or shortcomings of a game needs to be reasonable. As you said in the article above, people simply hating a game ‘just because’ and trying to find every single possible flaw in the game to support their notion that other people should hate it need to calm down and take a step back – but at the same time, people defending those very flaws need to realise that just because you like a game does not mean its flaws do not exist.

      I mean, think about it – just because you found a particular game fun, is it justified of you to try and convince others that they /must/ also find it fun? To think less of them if they refuse?

      Isn’t that exactly the same behaviour as those that are forcing others to try and hate a game, that think less of them if /they/ refuse?

      Video kind of related. Whenever I have some Halo fan telling me about Halo Reach, this is how they come across. And hell be damned if I don’t accept their fanboy penis into my ears.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXasCjUTNpE

    • http://twitter.com/MGTHABO Marko Swanepoel

      I never tried to convince people that they /must/ play games that were fun to me. I just say I enjoyed them. I don’t go out saying “HEY DUDEZ YOU NEED TO PLAY THIS GAME OR YOUR A N00B LOL”. Some people think I do that, but I don’t. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/nanonyous Theo Lubbe

       Well, fear not, for that comment wasn’t referring specifically to you (Marko), but people who do that sort of thing in general :P

      Back when I still attended lans it would happen on occasion that I’d be playing the latest harry potter game at the lan to see if it was worth getting for a female friend or not – or just other generally ‘not4srs pplz’ games, and I’d inevitably have at least one person come up to me and call me a ‘faggot’ or rail off at me for playing such a ‘shit game’, despite not having played it themselves.

      Then again there would be people seeing I wasn’t playing x game at a lan that would try and convince me I absolutely must play it because it’s the best thing since masturbation lube for circumcised men, that would completely ignore me telling them I’ve already played an hour or two of it and it “simply isn’t for me”.

      You see both kinds of people all over the place, but the most such people I’d ever seen in the real world were attending lans.

  • Yashaar Mall

    Moving on,  i agree with you Thabo. I’ve played my fair share of games, albeit not as many as you, yet I’ve seen no reason to write extensively on why i dislike a game. Then again, I’ve never written about anything anyway :D. If i dislike a game, I simply dislike it and leave it like that. If there is one or two flaws, i’ll mention them sure, but i wont continue to dissect the game into several smaller parts, then go on to explain why each and every aspect is flawed because lol. If i dislike a game, then shame i wont play it again, or I’ll reassess as to why i disliked it and play from a different perspective. For example, people disliked the fact that Mass Effect 3 wasn’t an rpg. I chose to play it as an action game, and wasn’t left as disappointed. 

    Having said that, if its your job to write articles, and you don’t really have anything to write on and you really really hate a game, then i suppose, for the sake of getting views, then it could be acceptable

    • http://egamer.co.za/ Azhar Amien

      Why do I get the feeling that your last two lines are directed at me? :P

      Remember that only one of us gets to review a game in the end. Sometimes other writers want to have an opinion about a game but can’t due to that. So it’s about throwing a penny into the pot. Because you know we have different opinions and stuff :P

      Also, for myself, I love debates and discussion. I don’t remember forcing my opinion on anyone, but I mostly enjoy writing about my strong opinions because it brings discussion and makes things interesting. I’d go mad if I only ever spoke to people who agreed with me or had no strong opinions or just accepted everything. I guess I just find this stuff interesting, and my passion for games gets the better of me sometimes.

    • Yashaar Mall

      agreed. i hate it when people just say they hate a game, then just go on and insist that every single aspect is flawed without reason.

      And no, this wasn’t directed at you, just the people who moan about everything. :)

  • http://egamer.co.za/author/cavie Caveshen “CaViE” Rajman

     NO FUCK THIS GUY.

  • Rudolf_Venter

    Let me just get into the crossfire quickly and then make a speedy exit to the nearest counter for nerve tranquilizers. 

    I agree with your following statement to the fullest: “What would happen to me if I logged on every morning to various forums and my only objective for the day would be to spread my discord for a game? I would start to lose touch with the things that make gaming great.”

    As you were… Chewing on each other…